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Shanghai Commuter Trains Crash, French-Chinese JV Signal System Faulted

2 Shanghai Commuter trains crashed.  Just in.  Train company blamed French-Chinese Joint Venture made signaling system as probable cause.
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  1. zack
    September 27th, 2011 at 19:20 | #1

    a tragedy, but that’s not going to stop the gloating by the west and their vain hopes that public anger over the incident will transform into revolution.

    what we will see, hopefully is more strenuous safety checks, more effective infrastructure controls. the march of China’s development and advancement will continue unhindered as much as so many schadenfreude-seething westerners would want otherwise.

  2. raventhorn2000
    September 27th, 2011 at 19:36 | #2

    BTW, this is a list of all the accidents in the NY city subway.


    It happens more often than people think it does.

  3. zack
    September 27th, 2011 at 19:43 | #3

    the cessation of future HSR plans after the august accident was necessary, considering HSR is a fairly new technology and the implications are massive considering China will be relying heavily on rail for mass transit.

    the subway on the other hand, seems to me to be a case of a tragic accident/tech failure which can be resolved via engineering and safety checks. the french should also be held accountable as much as the MRT ppl are being held accountable.

    also the smh, it’ll be a cold day in hell when we start seeing an objective article from them regarding China, especially when it’s the China editor John Garnaut who seems to have a deep and unrelenting desire to portray everything Chinese in a negative conspiratorial light.

  4. Charles Liu
    September 27th, 2011 at 23:54 | #4

    SZ subway grew from 1 line to 5 in a few short years, I don’t know if they’ve had accidents. SH subway is probably considerably more complex, thou.

  5. raventhorn2000
    September 28th, 2011 at 05:58 | #5

    It’s funny how the Western media portray the Chinese blogs as some major hotbed of revolutionary dissident fury.

    If they actually read through the blogs in the West, they would realize that there are quite a few venting wing-nuts complaining just about everything on their governments. (Such as the Tea Partiers, they want everything for nothing, no taxes but lots of social benefits).

    Wing-nuts don’t bother to compare the facts. They like stating generalized absolutes. (Such as, French and Japanese HSR’s don’t seem to have the same problems as Chinese HSR line. But don’t mention that the Japanese are paying a lot to maintaining their HSR’s, a relic of their boom time, at FULL length service, end to end, nearly the same ticket cost as airline travel. Some Airlines are now attempting to beat the Japanese and Spanish HSR ticket prices).

    Bloggers complain about traffic jams, commuter train services, airline services, etc. ALL quite normal.

    Blaming it all on the government, just venting non-sense.

    Western Media making the blog mole-hill into a mountain, Moronic.

  6. zack
    September 28th, 2011 at 07:02 | #6

    it’s a form of self affirmation on the part of a people who can’t comprehend that a system that isn’t a western influenced liberal democracy can be just as successful-if not more so-than any other first world ‘western country’.
    THey make the excuse or belief that China, despite its success and over 80& approval rating (according to gallup) is seething with revolutionary zeeal for democracy when it’s anything but. The assumption or even prerogative amongst mouthpieces such as minxin pei, gordon chang, willy lam is that China MUST fail simply because it’s not a liberal democracy. Apparently Americans are canny enough to realise that if they have an ethnic chinese american parroting these things, it’s somehow more legitimate

  7. JJ
    September 28th, 2011 at 22:36 | #7


    And the irony is if an ethnic Chinese person disagrees then it’s because they’re brainwashed or afraid.

  8. zack
    September 28th, 2011 at 23:29 | #8

    there’s valid criticism, and then there’s demagoguery; i hardly think any of what Gordon Chang writes about with respect to China has any true scholarly merit to it. This is a guy who “predicted” the collapse of China in 98, 2003, etc etc etc u get the drift.
    Willy Lam is a member of the Heritage Foundation-an acknowledged right wing think tank with links to the US military.

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